Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs. Ryzen 7 5800X: Zen 3 Gaming Shootout

We lately in contrast the brand new AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D and Intel Core i9-12900K flagship face to face in 40 video games and located that total they provide an identical gaming expertise. Of course, they traded blows, however total a lot of a muchness. Still, there have been a great deal of fascinating information factors and this motivated us to incorporate the unique 5800X in a brand new comparability, permitting us to see the place that huge L3 cache can assist out.

On the menu right this moment is one other 40 sport benchmark — truly 41, as a result of we have included yet another title within the type of Microsoft Flight Simulator. This time it is the 5800X3D in opposition to its non secular predecessor, the 5800X, examined throughout three resolutions utilizing the RTX 3090 Ti.

As of writing, the 5800X3D has but to go on sale, so we have nonetheless to find simply what number of of these items AMD has to promote, and at what value they’re going to be obtainable. AMD says $450, so we’ll need to go together with that for now.

When in comparison with the Core i9-12900K, the 5800X3D is exceptionally good worth (at the very least for gaming), priced nearly 30% decrease after which you could have the reminiscence value which is considerably much less assuming you wish to unlock the complete potential of the Core i9 half. You can pair the 12900K with DDR4 reminiscence, however then it can nonetheless value greater than the 5800X3D and can be slower.

	Ryzen 9 5950X	Ryzen 9 5900X	Ryzen 7 5800X3D	Ryzen 7 5800X	Ryzen 5 5600X
Release Date	November 5, 2020		April 20, 2022	November 5, 2020
Price $ MSRP	$800	$550	$450		$550
Cores / Threads	16/32	12/24	8 / 16		6/12
iGPU	N/A
Base Frequency	3.4 GHz	3.7 GHz	3.4 GHz	3.8 GHz	3.7 GHz
Turbo Frequency	4.9 GHz	4.8 GHz	4.5 GHz	4.7 GHz	4.6 GHz
L3 Cache	64 MB	64 MB	96 MB	32 MB	32 MB
TDP	105 watts			65 watts

So in relation to “final gaming efficiency,” Intel and AMD are presently tied, however the 5800X3D is way extra reasonably priced, extra energy environment friendly and simpler to chill, making it a extra sensible answer for a pure-gaming construct. But what about for these of you who need high-end gaming efficiency, however aren’t fascinated with paying a premium for the “final” gaming?

From Intel, the Core i7-12700K is fairly nice, and that is the comparability we’ll be going for subsequent. But for right this moment now we have AMD’s personal 5800X, which is now promoting for $340, and the brand new R7 5700X at $290. We’re solely together with the 5800X on this testing, however with a mere 2% frequency benefit over the 5700X, you possibly can safely assume this efficiency can also be achievable with the cheaper Ryzen 7 half.

The objective of right this moment’s benchmark session can be to measure the place the 3D V-Cache boosts gaming efficiency, and to see if it is price spending the additional 32-55% on the 5800X3D.

Both AMD CPUs have been examined utilizing DDR4-3800 CL16 reminiscence with the MSI X570S Carbon Max WiFi. This is the quickest reminiscence we will use with the Ryzen 7, whereas operating at a 1:1 ratio with the FCLK. We’ve enabled Resizable BAR utilizing the GeForce RTX 3090 Ti. Now onto the testing…

Benchmarks

Starting with Valorant, we discover a stable efficiency uplift from the 5800X3D. An 18% improve for the common body charge at 1080p and a 24% increase to 1% slows and related figures have been additionally seen at then the 5800X3D will in all probability enchantment to you.

We’re even larger efficiency positive factors in Fortnite, right here the 5800X3D was as much as 27% quicker, seen at 1080p and 1440p. The 5800X was actually very quick, however the 3D model meant 1% lows have been stored above 250 fps.

Even at 4K, the 5800X3D was as much as 19% quicker which is outstanding and though best gamers goal 1080p, or possibly 1440p, I actually admire the increase at 4K as that is the place I play Fortnite.

Call of Duty Warzone gamers rocking a Zen 3 processor will see a considerable efficiency uplift with the 5800X3D when CPU certain. Here the brand new 3D V-Cache mannequin was as much as 26% quicker, inline with what was seen in Fortnite. This margin was seen at 1080p and 1440p when wanting on the 1% lows, although the sport grew to become solely GPU restricted at 4K.

Many of you have been very excited to see ACC included within the earlier benchmark, and sure we’ll be together with it transferring ahead. The positive factors for the 5800X3D are unbelievable as we’re an enchancment in 1% lows of as much as 53%, with a 43% increase to the common body charge.

We’re even seeing an enormous 30% enchancment to 1% lows at 4K, so the 5800X3D is far quicker than the 5800X throughout the board on this title, suggesting that this can be a very cache delicate sport.

Cities Skylines is principally a single core sport, which is why we’re seeing such an excessive CPU bottleneck at a comparatively low body charge. The 3D V-Cache does assist, boosting efficiency by nearly 20% throughout the board, and you will actually discover this enchancment.

StarCraft II is one other single core sport and this one runs very poorly late sport except you could have a contemporary processor. Here we’re seeing an enormous 52% enchancment in 1% lows with the 5800X3D and a 32% improve for the common body charge.

Although the 5800X was fairly succesful, you’ll discover the large enchancment with the 5800X3D. This huge margin was additionally seen at 1440p and even 4K, so a giant enchancment with 3D V-Cache for certain.

Interestingly, little or no enchancment was seen in Apex Legends, at most a 9% improve to 1% lows was seen at 1080p, with a 3% increase to the common body charge. For these of you primarily enjoying Apex, the 5800X3D is not going to be definitely worth the funding.

The similar is true of Dying Light 2, notably when you’re enjoying at 1440p or greater resolutions, and particularly so when you’re doing so with a slower GPU than the RTX 3090 Ti. So whereas the huge 3D V-Cache could be of nice profit on some titles, that will not at all times be the case.

The efficiency uplift for Rainbow Six Siege is sort of tame. We’re a 9% increase at 1080p, adopted by nothing on the GPU restricted 1440p and 4K resolutions.

Battlefield V ran considerably quicker with the 5800X3D, boosting 1% lows by 33% at 1080p and the common body charge by a whopping 41%. Even at 1440p, we’re a 30% enchancment in 1% lows and a 21% improve for the common body charge. Then at 4K, we’re nonetheless as much as a 14% increase for the 3D V-Cache, a formidable set of outcomes.

F1 2021 is one other sport that noticed sturdy efficiency positive factors for the 5800X3D. This time 1% lows have been improved by 40% at 1080p and a extra gentle however nonetheless spectacular 17% improve for the common body charge. Then at 1440p, the 1% lows have been boosted by 22% with only a 5% improve for the common body charge, after which no efficiency positive factors have been seen at 4K.

Moving on to Halo Infinite, we’re a 35% enchancment for the 1% lows at 1080p and a 23% improve to the common body charge. Those margins have been decreased to 22% for the 1% lows and simply 6% for the common body charge earlier than seeing efficiency principally neutralized at 4K. The increase from the 5800X3D at 1080p and 1440p is sort of important because it meant 1% lows have been now above 100 fps.

Even with barely dialed down high quality settings, Red Dead Redemption 2 is usually GPU certain, as seen at 1440p and 4K. There are some positive factors available at 1080p the place the 5800X3D was as much as 16% quicker, so an excellent uplift there, although we suspect underneath most gaming situations there can be little to no distinction between these two CPUs on this title.

For some cause the 1% low efficiency of the 5800X is sort of weak in The Outer Worlds. This Unreal Engine 4 title has by no means performed effectively with AMD {hardware}, however the 5800X3D does go a good distance in direction of altering that.

At 1080p the 1% lows have been improved by an unbelievable 57% margin and though the uplift to the common body charge was much less excessive, a 22% increase continues to be spectacular. The margins shrink at 1440p and are nearly solely eradicated at 4K.

In Death Stranding it is the 1% lows which might be improved probably the most with the 5800X3D, boosting efficiency at 1080p by 31% with a 14% improve to the common body charge. The 5800X3D remained as much as 20% quicker at 1440p earlier than hitting a GPU restricted brick wall at 4K.

For the 12900K vs. 5800X3D comparability we did not embody Microsoft Flight Simulator, as a result of we could not get it to work. Let me elaborate. On our AMD check system, the simulator works simply high quality, however on the Intel system we bumped into what’s often known as the “infinite login loop,” a bug that is been extensively reported on by customers.

We tried each suggestion we got here throughout to repair this subject, however no pleasure. I merely can not log into my account on our Intel check system. We went to Twitter with this subject and Paul Alcorn from Tom’s Hardware mentioned they’ve had the identical subject for months now and have been unable to discover a answer. So for now we cannot have the ability to present any Intel outcomes, however right here is how the 5800X3D and 5800X examine.

We’re a 21-23% efficiency improve at 1080p with as much as an 18% increase seen at 1440p earlier than operating into a tough GPU bottleneck at 4K.

Performance Summary

We simply checked out a bit over a dozen of the video games examined, however with 41 in whole, there’s much more information to go over. So let’s check out the breakdown graphs protecting the 1080p, 1440p and 4K resolutions.

At 1080p, the Ryzen 5 5800X3D delivered a mean 15% efficiency bump over the unique 5800X, which is spectacular and inline with AMD’s claims. Out of the 41 titles, simply 10 noticed efficiency positive factors of 5% or much less, which we deem insignificant.

There have been 25 video games the place the efficiency margin was 10% or higher, after which 13 titles the place positive factors exceeded 20%. That means for 32% of the titles examined the positive factors have been what we would name very important.

Moving to 1440p decreased the margin to 9% in favor of the 5800X3D because the testing grew to become extra GPU certain. Unless you play at low high quality settings or have an especially quick GPU, efficiency for probably the most half goes to be related, with almost 70% of the video games we examined seeing single-digit positive factors.

Then at 4K we’re nearly at all times GPU restricted, excluding just a few titles. StarCraft II which is now a 12 yr previous sport, solely makes use of a single core, so even at 4K we’re nonetheless closely CPU certain and the identical is true of Cities Skylines.

Valorant is not as CPU certain, however it does not push the graphics card very exhausting, shifting the limitation extra in direction of the CPU. For the remainder of the video games although, we’re principally GPU restricted efficiency.

Also price testing the 1080p 1% low information, which reveals a extra important enchancment for the 5800X3D when in comparison with common body charges. On common, the 1% lows have been improved by 22%, and we’re seeing excessive examples of fifty% or higher positive factors in StarCraft II and ACC. Moreover, there are 22 video games the place the positive factors exceeded 20%, with only a handful of titles exhibiting single-digit positive factors. The 5800X3D does not merely allow greater body charges, but additionally smoother efficiency when in comparison with the 5800X.

X or X3D?

We noticed spectacular positive factors from the Ryzen 7 5800X3D over the unique 5800X, it is merely a significantly better gaming CPU. But is it price paying greater than a 30% premium for, or a bit over 50% when in comparison with the brand new 5700X? That will rely on the video games you are enjoying, the way you’re enjoying them, and what sort of efficiency you are after.

If the objective is to safe the most effective gaming efficiency potential, then by all means, the 5800X3D is it. Either that, or the Core i9-12900K, although you will have to spend so much extra money on the Intel aspect.

If you are enjoying video games comparable to StarCraft II, Watch Dogs Legion, ACC, F1 2021, Battlefield V and different titles the place the efficiency soar was important, and also you’re after extra efficiency than the 5800X can ship, then the 5800X3D would be the apparent alternative. But, if you do not have the GPU energy to make the most of that further headroom, or will not be enjoying at decrease high quality settings, then the 5800X3D will not be any quicker than the 5800X for probably the most half — or the cheaper 5700X for that matter.

Conversely, if you’d like the utmost bang to your buck in a PC gaming system, the 5800X3D shouldn’t be the best way to go. For that, the Ryzen 7 5700X or Core i7-12700F needs to be your high decisions. Lately we have been recommending the Core i7, however we’ll take a greater take a look at the 5700X quickly.

The 5800X3D is a formidable gaming CPU and it demonstrates simply what number of choices AMD now has obtainable to make their CPUs so much quicker for explicit duties. That will not make it the most effective worth, however for a small premium AMD is delivering as much as 50% extra efficiency with 15-22% extra on common relying on the metric/sport you take a look at.

How spectacular of an achievement will in the end rely on pricing and availability, one thing we must always have an excellent deal with on the approaching weeks (primarily based on what we have been listening to, it does not sound too promising). For now, that is going to do it for this comparability, arising subsequent we’ll examine the 12700KF in opposition to the 5800X3D and 5800X to find out which model gives the most effective worth high-end CPU for avid gamers.