AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review: Gaming-First CPU
The Ryzen 7 5800X3D is the primary processor to function AMD’s 3D V-cache know-how that was introduced final October. AMD promised 3D V-cache would carry a ~15% increase to gaming efficiency used alongside the Zen 3 structure due to a a lot bigger L3 cache.
Since then, we have examined and confirmed that L3 cache closely influences gaming efficiency (see our function “How CPU Cores & Cache Impact Gaming Performance” for particulars). That article was impressed by limitless claims that extra cores have been the way in which to go for players, even if video games are actually unhealthy at utilizing core-heavy processors… and we do not anticipate that to vary any time quickly.
As a fast instance, we discovered many cases the place rising the L3 cache of a Tenth-gen Core sequence processor from 12 to twenty MB — a 67% improve — may increase gaming efficiency by round 20%, whereas rising the core rely from 6 to 10 cores — additionally a 67% improve — would solely enhance efficiency by 6% or much less.
In different phrases, making the cores sooner, fairly than including extra of them, is one of the best ways to spice up efficiency in at this time’s video games. Acknowledging this, AMD has opted to supercharge their 8-core, 16-thread Ryzen 7 5800X with 3D V-cache, creating the 5800X3D.
|Ryzen 9 5950X||Ryzen 9 5900X||Ryzen 7 5800X3D||Ryzen 7 5800X||Ryzen 5 5600X|
|Release Date||November 5, 2020||April 20, 2022||November 5, 2020|
|Price $ MSRP||$800||$550||$450||$550|
|Cores / Threads||16/32||12/24||8 / 16||6/12|
|Base Frequency||3.4 GHz||3.7 GHz||3.4 GHz||3.8 GHz||3.7 GHz|
|Turbo Frequency||4.9 GHz||4.8 GHz||4.5 GHz||4.7 GHz||4.6 GHz|
|L3 Cache||64 MB||64 MB||96 MB||32 MB||32 MB|
|TDP||105 watts||65 watts|
This new CPU sees an unimaginable 200% improve in L3 cache capability, going from the usual 32 MB to a powerful 96 MB. This is achieved by stacking a 41mm2 die containing nothing however L3 cache over the Zen 3 core advanced die, extending the L3 cache by 64 MB.
AMD claims this boosts efficiency by 15% on common over the Ryzen 9 5900X, which isn’t any small feat. They additionally declare the 5800X3D is total sooner than Intel’s i9-12900K whereas costing considerably much less, in order that’ll be attention-grabbing to have a look at.
In phrases of pricing, the 5800X3D has been set at $450 which is the unique value of the usual 5800X, which has now dropped all the way down to round $340. Intel’s Core i9-12900K is round $600, so ought to the 5800X3D hit the meant MSRP, it’ll be significantly cheaper than the competitors.
Another benefit of the 5800X3D is that it may be dropped into any AM4 motherboard that already helps Ryzen 5000 sequence processors, which means cheap B450 boards do assist this new CPU, although ideally you’d most likely need a first rate X570 board to justify spending a lot on the processor.
It’s value noting that this can be a gaming centered CPU. We’re certain there will probably be some productiveness workloads that may profit from the additional L3 cache, however AMD has avoided giving any examples in the event that they exist. Instead, AMD is 100% pushing this as a gaming CPU, and when you see the info it’ll make sense why there is not a “5950X3D.”
Not to fret, now we have included some productiveness benchmarks on this overview as we’re certain a lot of you need to see the way it compares with the 5800X.
Speaking of which, when in comparison with the 5800X, the brand new 3D model is clocked barely decrease with a lift frequency of 4.5 GHz, down 200 MHz from the unique. Also, whilst you can overclock the 5800X, you possibly can’t do the identical with the 5800X3D as AMD has locked core overclocking for this half, which means you possibly can solely tune the reminiscence.
For testing the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and all Zen 3 CPUs on this overview, we’re utilizing the MSI X570S Carbon Max WiFi with the newest BIOS utilizing AGESA model 188.8.131.52b. Then for the Intel Twelfth-gen processors, MSI’s Z690 Unify was used with the newest BIOS revision. All of this testing is recent, and the gaming benchmarks have been up to date with the GeForce RTX 3090 Ti utilizing the newest graphics drivers.
The default reminiscence configuration was DDR4-3200 CL14 dual-rank, however we have additionally included some configurations utilizing G.Skill’s DDR4-4000 CL16 reminiscence set to 3800 CL16, as the very best FCLK our 5800X3D pattern can deal with with out reminiscence errors is 1900MHz and that is the norm for all high quality Zen 3 chips. For Intel processors we have additionally added a DDR5-6400 CL32 reminiscence configuration. Both platforms have been examined with ReSizable BAR enabled and Windows 11. Let’s now get into it.
Starting with Cinebench R23, we see that the 5800X3D is definitely 7% slower than the 5800X. This after all is because of the truth that it is clocked decrease, working at an all-core frequency of 4.3 GHz on this take a look at, whereas the 5800X ran at 4.6 GHz. This is to be anticipated and AMD supplied their very own Cinebench knowledge which aligned with our findings.
On a aspect word, some AMD customers declare our Cinebench R23 knowledge is off as their Zen 3 CPU scores larger. What you are seeing right here is the inventory conduct of every CPU. If your mannequin scores larger, it is both as a result of the motherboard is auto-overclocking or you will have PBO enabled, however by default that is the scores every mannequin ought to produce.
Interestingly, the only core efficiency has dropped by 12% in response to the Cinebench R23 outcomes when in comparison with what we see with the 5800X. That’s a big discount which usually would not bode effectively for gaming efficiency, however we’ll take a look at that shortly.
The 7-Zip File Manager decompression efficiency is about the identical as what we noticed from the 5800X, with no noteworthy adjustments.
The similar is true of the Corona benchmark. We’re taking a look at a 1 second distinction between the 5800X and 5800X3D.
The Adobe Photoshop 2022 benchmark depends closely on single core efficiency and right here we see a 6% discount in efficiency for the 5800X3D when in comparison with the 5800X. That fats L3 cache clearly is not serving to for these productiveness benchmarks.
The 3800X3D’s code compilation efficiency was much like the 5800X. We’re taking a look at a miniscule 1% distinction.
We like to incorporate Factorio within the utility benchmarks as we’re not measuring fps, however updates per second. This automated benchmark calculates the time it takes to run 1,000 updates. This is a single-thread take a look at which apparently depends closely on cache efficiency.
Case in level, not like earlier utility benchmarks, we’re taking a look at a large enchancment in Factorio with the 5800X3D. Amazingly, the brand new CPU was 56% sooner than the 5800X and that meant it was 26% sooner than Intel’s 12900KS utilizing DDR5-6400 reminiscence.
Briefly again to utility benchmarks, now we have Blender and like all the opposite functions examined, the 5800X3D is a little bit slower than the 5800X, lagging behind by a 5% margin.
Time for the gaming checks, and what do now we have right here… Far Cry 6 has been a poor title for Zen 3’s battle towards Alder Lake, however the 5800X3D appears to be like to vary all that.
Using the identical DDR4-3200 reminiscence because the 5800X, we’re taking a look at a 44% improve in gaming efficiency, from 120 fps to 173 fps. That was additionally a ten% improve over the 12900K when utilizing the identical DDR4 reminiscence.
But it will get higher for AMD. Even when arming the 12900K with insanely costly DDR5-6400 CL32 reminiscence, the 5800X3D was sooner utilizing DDR4-3200, and sooner once more with DDR4-3800 reminiscence. Granted, the margin wasn’t large, however with the quickest inventory reminiscence you may get for every half, the 5800X3D was nonetheless 6% sooner.
Moving on to Horizon Zero Dawn, we’re principally GPU certain regardless of testing at 1080p with an RTX 3090 Ti and the second highest high quality settings. Truth is, plenty of video games are extra GPU certain than CPU certain, which is why we embody this knowledge.
We’re taking a look at a 13% improve for the 5800X3D over the 5800X and that locations it barely forward of the 12900K.
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Extraction can be maxed out with the RTX 3090 Ti at 1080p utilizing the second highest high quality preset with these high-end CPUs. There is a little bit wiggle room because the 5800X3D proves, together with the 12900KS, however we’re speaking a few negligible 6% enchancment from 311 fps to 329 fps.
The Watch Dogs: Legion efficiency enchancment is mighty spectacular. Here the 5800X3D was 33% sooner than the 5800X when utilizing the identical DDR4-3200 reminiscence.
That additionally made it 10% sooner than the 12900K, once more when utilizing the identical reminiscence. For most efficiency we paired the 5800X3D with DDR4-3800 reminiscence and this pushed the typical body price as much as 161 fps, just some frames shy of what the 12900K achieved with DDR5-6400.
The Riftbreaker is a tough title for AMD, however the 5800X3D does assist, boosting efficiency by 32% over the unique 5800X. This is a superb consequence as a result of utilizing the identical DDR4 reminiscence the 5800X3D and 12900K are then comparable by way of efficiency.
Faster DDR4-3800 reminiscence did not assist additional although and the 12900KS with DDR5-6400 runs away with it, delivering 12% extra efficiency or a whopping 27% extra when wanting on the 1% lows.
As was the case with Rainbow Six and Horizon Zero Dawn, we look like maxing out what the RTX 3090 Ti can do at 1080p in Shadow of the Tomb Raider, with GPU certain limits of round 190 fps.
This nonetheless noticed a 19% efficiency improve for the 5800X, and when utilizing the identical DDR4-3200 reminiscence the 5800X3D was 4% sooner than the 12900K.
Hitman 3 noticed a 24% efficiency enchancment from the 5800X to the 5800X3D when evaluating the typical body price and a 40% improve for the 1% lows.
This allowed the 5800X3D to match the 12900K when utilizing the identical DDR4-3200 reminiscence, a powerful consequence. The DDR4-3800 configuration solely improved efficiency by 5%, whereas the 12900K turned 22% sooner with DDR5-6400 reminiscence.
Cyberpunk 2077 is not variety to AMD though over 100 fps is a lot for enjoying this recreation, and given it isn’t a aggressive title you do not want lots of of frames per second. The 5800X3D positive factors are fairly tame in comparison with different video games, only a 15% increase, and DDR4-3800 did not assist additional efficiency.
Using the identical DDR4-3200 reminiscence, the 12900K was as much as 16% sooner after which as much as 32% sooner when utilizing extremely costly DDR5 reminiscence.
Power Consumption and Cooling
Interestingly, regardless that Blender rendering didn’t take any benefit of the huge L3 cache, the 5800X3D used much less energy than the 5800X, lowering complete system consumption by 15%. The incontrovertible fact that it is clocked decrease and possibly makes use of larger high quality silicon is probably going the main contributing issue right here.
For cooling we used the Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix 360mm AIO liquid cooler and this noticed the 5800X3D hit a peak die temperature of 83C after half-hour of stress testing utilizing Cinebench R23. This consequence was recorded in an enclosed case (Corsair Obsidian 500D) with an ambient room temperature of 21 levels.
For comparability, beneath the identical take a look at situations, the unique 5800X peaked at 87C, or 4C larger, and it is because it clocks the cores larger.
For evaluating energy consumption utilizing the RTX 3090 Ti, we have gone and examined the 5800X3D and 12900K in three video games: Cyberpunk 2077, Far Cry 6 and Hitman 3, all utilizing DDR4-3200 for each CPUs.
In Cyberpunk 2077, the 12900K was sooner and in Far Cry 6 the 5800X3D was sooner. When it involves energy utilization, the 12900K pushed complete system utilization 12% larger in Cyberpunk 2077, which is not unhealthy given it was as much as 16% sooner.
Then in Far Cry 6, the 12900K was 9% slower which is not nice given complete system energy utilization was 20% larger. The Hitman 3 knowledge is attention-grabbing as a result of each CPUs delivered the identical degree of efficiency, however the 12900K pushed complete system energy utilization 9% larger. While not at all times the quickest gaming CPU, the 5800X3D is the extra environment friendly half.
8 Game Average Performance
To get this overview prepared in time, we have been solely capable of take a look at 8 video games, however we plan on testing much more shortly. From this small pattern although, we discovered that the 5800X3D is barely sooner than the 12900K when utilizing the identical DDR4 reminiscence.
It’s a small 5% margin, however that did make it 19% sooner than the 5900X on common, so AMD’s 15% declare is wanting good.
When utilizing premium reminiscence, the 12900K did have the sting, and was 8% sooner when evaluating 1% low knowledge. That’s nonetheless not a large sufficient margin to justify the value delta, not to mention the DDR5-6400 reminiscence, so we might say the 5800X3D has accomplished mighty effectively total.
What We Learned
We’ve bought to say that after seeing simply how briskly the Core i9-12900K might be when paired with DDR5-6400 reminiscence and the GeForce RTX 3090 Ti, we did not suppose the Ryzen 7 5800X3D was going to stack up all that effectively, nevertheless it’s actually impressed us anyway.
We’ve examined a small pattern of video games up to now, simply eight, nevertheless it was good to see the 5800X3D edging out the 12900K when each have been utilizing DDR4 reminiscence. High velocity DDR5 does give the Core i9 processor a bonus, nevertheless it’s additionally very costly, although pricing is tumbling fairly rapidly.
The DDR5-6400 equipment we used, for instance, value $610 in February, then dropped to $530 in March, earlier than sinking to $480 in April the place it at present sits. Granted, which means the reminiscence alone nonetheless prices greater than the 5800X3D, however we have seen a 22% slide in DDR5-6400 pricing in simply two months.
Then once more, we’re speaking about two totally different animals. The Core i9-12900K / DDR5-6400 combo will set you again $1,080, add to that $250 to $300+ on a mid-range Z690 motherboard. Alternatively, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D ought to value $450 and DDR4-3800 CL16 reminiscence might be had for as little as $265, making for a $715 combo. A great high quality X570S board will set you again $220 – $250, or you would simply get a boring previous X570 board like the wonderful worth Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus WiFi for $160.
All in all, you should purchase the 5800X3D + high-speed DDR4 reminiscence + a high quality X570 motherboard for $875. Compare that to the premium Intel package deal which might set you again $1,330, or a few 50% premium for a couple of % extra efficiency on common.
We’re additionally ignoring the 12900KS in these calculations as a result of at nearly $800, that CPU is fairly pointless. Very highly effective, however finally pointless because the 12900K delivers the identical degree of efficiency for $170 much less. Using the identical DDR4-3800 reminiscence, the 12900K platform value drops to $1,125, however that is nonetheless a ~30% premium for what would now be the inferior performing choice.
So as we see it, you both go massive with high-speed DDR5 when shopping for the 12900K otherwise you may as effectively simply go for the extra environment friendly and simpler to chill 5800X3D. Of course, we might love to match these two throughout 30 or extra video games, and we’re engaged on that proper now to see past a shadow of a doubt which is the last word CPU for players.
In the meantime, we’re extraordinarily impressed with what we have seen right here, and we merely hope AMD can meet demand. If the 5800X3D turns into one other Ryzen 3 3300X state of affairs, players will not be comfortable.
Stay tuned for a extra in-depth gaming solely observe up from us shortly.